MONAVIE HORROR!

Who has more than 200 dollars a months to give in order to receive the extra bonuses when the economy is very bad??? I just found out today that I need to buy 2 boxes and other people too in order to get the 8 compensations. The company would do alot better with just one 100 points required then alot of people would join...I am very hurt and madddddd.... It is a great juice but the information when given is not cleared.... YOU NEEED 2 BOXES!!!!!!!

I am a MonaVie Distributor, but before I did that, I decided to drink it for a few months. Guess what I did feel better, and so did my husband. If you want to hear about the science behind it go to youtube and put in Alexander Schauss in the search engine. He is the leading scientific authority on the Acai berry. He was studying it long before MonaVie was around. I know some people balk at it's 40.00 a bottle price tag, but realy if you break it down it is only about 5 bucks a day. The product is certified wild and/or organic, and 4 ounces a day gives you the equivalent of 13 servings of fruit. I'd like to see anyone purchase 13 servings of organic fruit for 5 dollars. It would cost more like 10-13 dollars. Also MonaVie makes NO medical claims. It is just juice people. Although there is a new product available called MonaVie Pulse and it is FDA approved because of the levels of Resviratol in a daily serving. Anyways, that is just my little rant. I love it, my husband loves it, my son loves it, my mother in law loves it, co workers of mine are loving it. So if we are all reacting to the placebo effect then I say bring on the placebo effect, because I truly have never felt better. MonaVie also has a patent pending process for their harvesting of the Acai Berry. They harvest it, then it is freeze dried, and everything is used. The pulp, the juice, the skins, and the seed inside. Everything. Also MonaVie is funding the MORE Project which directly benefits the people of Brazil.Where the berry comes from. Check it out. MonaVie ROCKS.

Hey breezy,

I love it that you are a hippyish type person.

Did you even read the disclaimer on that website (westonaprice.org) that you wanted people to link to? It states that "The information published herein is not intended to be used as a substitute for appropriate care by a qualified health practitioner."

I am sorry that I did not post this in my earlier submission-- not every vet has had the opportunity (fortune or misfortune) to have to/need to shoot someone. I would be concerned about anyone that would brag about shooting someone.

Cole,

You apparently did not look at the very teeny amount of research (from the TONS that you have done) that would show you that the V8 Acai blend has acai juice as an ingredient. Read the label. I also saw the FAQ's on the V8 site -- you are correct, when the question is "What flavors are in V8? It does say acai." but they use the juice of the berry to get that flavor. I am glad that you are an acai authority, because I would like to know if during your research did you find any tests on MV? Just wondering.

Here is a link to the ingredients in V8 acai blend, it doesn't weigh a ton, sorry.
wegmans.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10052&productId=643970&catalogId=10002&krypto=QJrbAudPd0vzXUGByeatog%3D%3D&ddkey=http:ProductDisplay

breezy,

1. In reference to BJob-that was a joke (and what does BJob being an animal doctor have to do with anything?).

2. I did not and do not brag about killing people, I said that I have a cool job because I can shoot people at work.

Just curious to know what the Monavie pushers think about their product relative to this acai juice produced by Knudsen.
knudsenjuices.com/products/organic_juices/organic_acai_berry

It sells for only a few dollars for a 32-oz bottle (vs. $45 for a 25-oz bottle of Monavie). It is available at most supermarkets (no need to deal with MLM scammers), is USDA certified organic (Monavie contains no USDA-certified organic ingredients), contains real acai juice (not acai powder like Monavie) and berry purees (whereas Monavie contains very little puree and mostly berry juice concentrates), it is free of sodium benzoate and other preservatives (unlike Monavie), and it contains less sugar per ounce (less than 2.5 g/oz vs. 3 g or more for Monavie and Monavie Pulse). How can anyone claim that Monavie is a reasonable value when it competes against clearly superior products like this?

And please don’t tell me that Monavie has acai listed as the first ingredient whereas Knudsen’s juice lists acai as the third ingredient. Monavie’s label fails to mention that it contains water as an ingredient (which is necessary to reconstitute the juice concentrates otherwise it would have the consistency of syrupy sludge) and we have no evidence as to how much acai is really in Monavie. There is no justification for the greater than 10-fold price differential of Monavie vs. Knudsen’s organic acai juice.

sodium benzoate is found naturally in cranberries, prunes, greengage plums, cinnamon, ripe cloves, and apples. Concentration as a preservative is limited by the FDA in the U.S. to 0.1% by weight though organically-grown cranberries and prunes can conceivably contain levels exceeding this limit.It is also used in fireworks as a fuel in whistle mix.

Cole wrote:

Just a piece of info. I have done tons of research on the acai berry. I looked into the V8 Fusion with Acai. If you look carefully (V8 website) it is not the ACTUAL berry in the juice but the acai berry FLAVOR. I doubt that the flavor will give you the results you are looking for.I don't support either side, I just wanted to point out a fact.

“RECONSTITUTED FRUIT JUICE BLEND (WATER AND CONCENTRATED JUICES OF APPLES, WHITE GRAPES, AÇAI, BLUEBERRIES, LIMES)”

All over the internet I see claims of how the acai berry helps with weight loss. Hmmmmm.... I drank the required amount 2x a day for 3 months after having quit a smoking habit. Well, let's just say I have never been heavier in my life. People also claim it helps them with sleep... didn't work with me. Stronger nails? Nope. I couldn't see paying that much for a product that wasn't changing anything about the way I felt each day or looked. I wasted a LOT of money, while my distributor got even richer. Sorry... no benefits for me!

This is totally funny!!! How many blogs are you going to repeat to make this revenge against networking BIG enough to get around the world? Obviously most of you are a bunch of loosers who can't lead a group of people out of a house fire because you'd be more interested in getting yourself out the quickest! You're probably a bunch of ex-MLM loosers who couldn't handle getting out of their comfort zone!

The Monavie experience is based on the distribution of a very well made and studied juice product. Some call it expensive because most people in todays society think they get their vitamins from that cheap Vitamin Water or V8 fusion! The individual who distributes MV has not only a great product but also a work base of like minded people who will cheer you on as you grow both intellectually and in business! Call this a cult? Then I'm in one! I always thought a cult was where one elder tells everybody what to do and then, like lemmings they do it..."Brain Washed" well that's not what I see in MV because few are doing the same work as far as I can see, up or downline! Matter of fact there are people under me who make much more than I do any day of the week! Thats a pyramid!!!

Justthefacts you're right on!!! I've been with MV 8 months and have already built a nice size team of people who adore the product! Some of these people are becoming leaders that would have never thought themselves to be, before this experience. Oh yea bye the way my doctor drinks it too and so does the elderly lady down the street! The price of the product is stupid to even argue about because everything has its price! A 1.7oz bottle of perfume can cost $100.00. Can you imagine a wine bottle full? Some people put a price on maintaining their life, but not a price on the negative habits they have formed over the years! I am sure that those habits cost a lot more than $40.00 a week!

If someone is not interested in the MV product, we move on! it's not about hounding people to get on. It's about helping others to get a high dose of nutrition the body requires from fruit and maybe make something of themselves! I hate to tell you, Bob's Blogger Buds, but it really does sound like you need some friends and a good nutrition based drink to keep them bellies down and blood healthy! I have the business for you!

Networking has been around for a hundred years and started when telephone companies and TV stations were developed. There is nothing wrong with a community of people creating a vehicle for others who want to achieve success in something! There is nothing wrong with people who succeed in the hard work of building such a community and being rewarded for it! Everybody has the exact same chance! It's all about the information and how you handle it.

God knows that times are bad and security at the JOB is LOW! Why not try something for yourself? What if it works? What else is there? Is it worth an investment in a small home based business that actually costs $40.00 to start and $135.00 to drink a month? McDonalds starts at around $600,000 and the maintenance fees are outrageous! I think with a little ambition and B_lls you'd be better off trying Monavie for a much smaller investment and a lot less overhead!

Shame on you people who tear that away from the people with hope! MV is honest and backed by millions including the B.B.B.!!! Most of MV's successful distributors are from a middle to low class upbringing who will honestly admit and unleash their testimony!!

My business is small and the ROI is already long since paid off. I make a few hundred a week and did it in just over a few months! WOW I guess that puts me in the upper 10%!!! I'm an average Joe Plumber who has a dream! I live in a country that is FREE, paved by the brother and sister soldiers who fought for it! You can't argue that and God bless Free Enterprise America!

Remember... there is NO testimony without a test!

So good luck!!! Paz

Hi all,

Last Monday (11/10/08), FOX news in Utah ran an evening news report on their investigation of MonaVie.

You can view it the new clip at

realhealthanswers.com/news/FOX_News-11-10-08.htm

They sent film crew to a MonaVie reward trip, disected the income disclosure statement, earnings, etc.

For Cole:

The label I looked at contains acai berry juice. The juice comes from the acai berry, it's not a flavoring. There is flavoring added to the product.

For Breezy:

Sorry, but Russ Blaylock is a huckster. I've read a lot of his writings. He says a lot of things that are true, but he is an expert at taking parts of valid studies out of context.

His credentials are good, but his motives are suspect. Example: he sells his "wellness newsletter" for $79 per 24 month subscription.

If he were so concerned about everyone's health, why doesn't he offer it for free?

He says that the government is trying to "dumb down" america with chemicals. Another conspiracy nut. Then again, maybe he has a point. Look at the number of MonaVie distributors out there.

Concerned Fiend, a blog is owned or controlled by the owner. Freedom of speech is NOT guaranteed on a blog. At any moment the owner can put a stop to our incessant arguing (and has).

And "most" distributors on here have NOT made false claims. Most of those false claims come from fearful people like you who put those words into the blogosphere and then complain about us. You would love to hurt the company. We DO NOT want that to happen. Monavie is too important to me to be stupid. I saw what happened to Sea Silver (another great product) in the early days of the internet when people wrote about it on their websites. Your government came in and made them destroy the product because of claims, NOT because it was a bad product. It was an excellent product.

They did the same with the pinhole eye glasses (destroyed a warehouse full of them), but we ordered them from Italy and now they figure they might as well cash in instead of forcing importation. So they are being made and sold in the US (long after the 1937 patent expired).

Cheri, you are not quoting the wholesale price of Monavie. One can buy in bulk and get it at about $20 a bottle. So don't worry bout it. I'm looking forward to the day we have a distribution center where I live. Then I won't pay shipping either and hopefully will be able to recycle the bottles like they do in Oklahoma. I think there are at least 5 U.S. centers now and more coming.

Can't we all get along, you are describing your world, not mine. That is what perception is, people see what they believe.

Meanwhile Dr. Russell Blaylock is a great scientist. He puts his name and reputation on his work. I stand in awe of real patriots like that. Anonymous actors on this blog are just playing.

Breezy, why do you feel it necessary to waste perfectly good white space with your soapboxing about MSG and Campbell’s soup. Would it kill you to stay on topic just once, or is the urge to soapbox about your many questionable medical theories just too irresistible? I don't give a crap if Campbell's soup has MSG in it, so why don't you go start a blog called "Campbell's Soup Horror" and then you can rant all you want.

What is germane to the discussion of potentially harmful preservatives is the fact that Monavie contains sodium benzoate. It is the only acai-based fruit beverage on the market that I am aware that contains this nasty ingredient. V8 doesn't have it; Minute Maid Heart Wise OJ (with sterols, a competitor to Monavie Pulse) doesn't have it; and neither do the high quality acai juices made by Sambazon and Knudsen. Monavie is the only company that cares so little about producing a reasonable quality product that they would throw this nasty substance into their fruit juices.

It's extremely hypocritical and disingenuous (not to mention off topic) to criticize Campbell's soup for containing MSG when your beloved crap juice contains sodium benzoate. Even Coca-Cola has phased it out, or is phasing it out, of their soft drinks. But Coca-Cola has never been positioned as a "health" drink. Everyone already knows that soft drinks aren't great for health.

Drink it. Feel it. Share it.
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Share it... yeah right. More like buy it for an astromical price, so I can 'get rich'. Two of the most dishonest, selfish, self centered people I know have been harrassing me for months to join Mona Vie. I could never believe that these people would do anything in anyones best interest other than their own. That's why the SHARE IT phrase cracks me up.... it's not in these people's DNA to share anything.... they just look at people as dollar signs.

Greg,

Hopefully you check sooner than later, the argument is not about people drinking MV. The argument is that it is a pyramid scam that causes many distributors to LIE to attain their down line. If someone feels great after drinking MV that is fine, it is when people (distributors) tell people that they WILL feel great drinking it because they know someone that had cancer(insert fictitious ailment) cured because they drink MV. Misrepresenting a product to sell it is illegal. Most distributors on here make false claims.

I asked Ivan, on here this before; can you define a negative person? I am still looking for that definition. If the lucid posters here state that there is NO proof of any medical benefits from drinking MV, and EVERY MV lover cannot produce ANY tested proof, and the anti-MV people say that, how does it make them negative?

breezy,

Jessie was correct -- The Bill of Rights was created so that the Federal Government (Congess) cannot make laws restricting the freedoms listed. There is another part of the 1st amendment "petition the Government for a redress of grievances", that deals with the people talking to the governement. Freedom of speech means being able to say anything in public(with very few limitations), so it DEFINITELY applies to this and every BLOG. Sorry for the gradeschool civics class.

Just a piece of info. I have done tons of research on the acai berry. I looked into the V8 Fusion with Acai. If you look carefully (V8 website) it is not the ACTUAL berry in the juice but the acai berry FLAVOR. I doubt that the flavor will give you the results you are looking for.I don't support either side, I just wanted to point out a fact.

  You need to put the shiny side out, BreezyinVA.  That's very important.  Shiny side out.  Otherwise, it won't block Rumsfield's mind-control rays.

Whether MonaVie contains 19 fruits or 1900 fruits, my question is this: What is the bottom line? Am I going to live longer? Why? What study supports this?

Is the effect going to be immediate or long-term? Will it help in any ailment, slight or major? How? What studies have verified this?

If there is no compelling reason to buy MonaVie, other than personal testimonies, I'll stick with my poly phenol loaded ice tea.

My sister and her husband sells Monavie and swear it is really helping them feel great. I tried it and it was hard to choke it down for me.. They gave me a free bottle to try a few months ago which I haven't even cracked yet.. I think it is too costly of a product and I won't be able to order from them.. I am not aware of anyone that buys from them but I am sure they have some customers.. but the stuff is so expensive that I could never use it daily... one bottle lasts a week or so? They are $40.00 each.. $160.00 a month.. That is absolutely ridiculous. If the juice is that good I would love to take it but not at that price. I feel badly I don't buy from my sister but she never asks me too.. I think they must spend a lot of money on Monavie each month.. As people say.. the distributors are the major customers... probably because they can't get people to pay that astronomical price. sigh.

Concerned Friend, just how wrong are you. Major assumptions. BJ is all male. And he is a vet but he doesn't brag about killing people.

I'm still REALLY offended that blaylock would attack a great patriot like Dr. Russell Blaylock. It takes courage to take a stand for real health. I'm steaming right about now. westonaprice.org

This blog attracks the weirdest #*@%ing people.

I recommend a book called "The B.S. Factor", by Arthur Herzog. It's very entertaining. I wish he would have added a chapter about the MonaVie scam.

WOW !! I check out this site every now and then, and I am always amazed at how negative people are. Why is everyone so angry with MonaVie? I don't understand it. It's a product that people drink, and many people swear by it's benefits. Why is that if someone says "it made me feel better" they are called a liar? It looks to me like most of you need some MonaVie. It might help you relax. I'll make it easy for you. www.mymonavie.com/finallysleeping.
Order a case and try it for a month. You may like it.
Drink it. Feel it. Share it.

Greg

Up until I read the latest posts I had thought BJ was a male, WOW how wrong I was. I should stop making assumptions.

BobB, you are more than a forklift operator. You appear to be on a destructive mission. Russell Blaylock is far more important than you could know.

People taking stands against chemical/pharmaceutical companies based on the junk they are forcing on the population will attract those representing those companies.

Let's start with aspartame and the fact that rumsfield was the Searle ceo when that was pushed into society. Stevia was made "illegal." Blaylock you have outed yourself.

Apple juice turns to sugar soon after it is made. Sugar products don't need MSG to trick people.

Anyone using MSG in their products is using trickery. It adds nothing.

As Monavie grows there will be more professional bloggers unleashed. Lord knows the pharm companies can afford any thing they want.

We love our Monavie. It guarantees you a job.

Jessie, thanks for your informative post. Actually freedom of speech has nothing to do with a blog. It is about having the right to be heard by your government.

Snake-Oil Buster

You asked this question:

What is SO SPECIAL about Monavie that CANNOT be found in other Acai drinks priced under $10?

I don't know what is so SPECIAL about Monavie other than it's made from acai berries and 19 other fruits and glucosamine. I don't think any other drinks on the market have that many fruits and glucosamine. [this is only my opinion]

You also asked this:

What inside this blend makes it so miraculous as opposed to other drinks containing Acai?

This is also my opinion, am not a proof or fact finder: If I knew,you would and I would be in business along with other companies that would jump on the bandwagon.

i'm a second year law student who has never even hear of this stuff before this evening.

i just wanted to respond to some dangerous legal claims i saw on this blog, the most onerous of which went something along the following lines: "i can't say monavie cures cancer? there's something called freedom of speech in this country, and people are innocent until proven guilty."

1. yah, ok. technically, under the law, judges instruct jurors that defendants are innocent until proven guilty. but, let me tell you something. i've been working under a federal district judge since May, and jurors do NOT favor criminal defendants in reality. plus, even if "innocent until proven guilty" were actually true, you certainly do not want to go through that process if you can help it.

2. freedom of speech has nothing to do with protecting fraudulent claims. i'm not saying that people here are or are not doing that. legally, if you feel like monavie cured you of cancer, you can say, "i had cancer. i drank monavie. now, i don't have cancer. i believe that monavie cured MY cancer." but you cannot say the following and get away with it under a freedom-of-speech defense: "monavie cures cancer." that is downright fraudulent misrepresentation because no science backs up that claim. and, yes, when making a scientific claim, courts actually look to science.

so, just be careful, y'all. freedom of speech is not by any means absolute.

take care,

jessie

B J wrote:

I went to the grocery store this morning and just for the helluvit I checked the labels on about 10 different cans of YOUR company's soup.

Do you have ANY idea of the chemicals and other crap in your precious soup??.....Don't get me wrong. I believe Campbells is a good company, but you, Blowlock, have a lot of nerve preaching how MonaVie is no good when your company distributes pure CRAPOLA.
Go read your own labels you moron...
Now, I bid you all a pleasant bye bye.
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On every can of C-soup label I looked at, one of the ingredients was yeast extract,,,,and the other was hydrolyzed protein. That is protein that has been hydrolyzed or broken down into its component amino acids. While there are many means of achieving this, two of the most common are prolonged boiling in a strong acid or strong base or using an enzyme such as the pancreatic protease enzyme to stimulate the naturally-occurring hydrolytic process.
According to the FDA, hydrolyzed protein is used to enhance flavor and contains monosodium glutamate. When added this way, the labels are not required to list MSG as an ingredient.
Did you hear that Mr. Blowlock. Your delicious soups have MSG, whether or not the labels say it does or not.
MANY products do this and some products don't.
Let me make something perfectly clear.
MonaVie doesn't.
Now go take a joy ride on your forklift.

  Does the word “plagiarism” mean anything to you?  It's when you copy text or other materials from some source, and present it as your own, without crediting the source; as you have done here with some text that you copied from Wikipedia.  It's a sure sign of one who is intellectually dishonest.  It does not surprise me, in the least, to have caught you engaging in it here.

  Anyway, yes, Most Campbell's soups contain MSG.  Most of them even explicitly say so on the label.  No surprise here.  It's a very common food additive, and, in spite of various bits of controversy, the scientific community is generally very solidly agreed that it is a safe additive.  In fact, to quote from the Wikipedia — same source that you plagiarized — “The 1987 Joint Expert Committee on Food Additives of the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization and the World Health Organization placed monosodium glutamate in the safest category of food ingredients.”

  I, myself, looked at a few different cans of soup to see what you were going on about.  Yes, MSG is there in the ingredients on most of them.  Other than that, a few scary-looking names of common, natural substances, which caused me to remember, a long time ago, a TV commercial for a “natural” ice cream, in which a man looking at the ingredients of some major brand ice cream, wondered what “carrageenan” is, and what it was doing in his ice cream.  The gist of the commercial was to paint carrageenan as some sinister chemical that these big nasty companies were adding to ice cream, and by the way, “our ‘natural’ ice cream doesn't have it.“

  Do you know what carrageenan is?  It's the slimy stuff on on the surface of most seaweeds.  It's an entirely natural substance, that happens to have a very beneficial effect on the texture of ice cream.  The “natural” ice cream advertised in the commercial of which I wrote, probably contained things that are a lot less natural than carrageenan.  And the lack of carrageenan is probably why that ice cream never sold well, and why its brand name is now long–forgotten.  Without carrageenan, ice cream has a much less pleasant texture, and most people don't like it as much.

  Anyway, this discussion is not about soup, it is about juice blends.  Monavie doesn't make soup.  If it did, it probably would use MSG as well, just as Campbell's does, and just as every other manufacturer of canned soup does.  Monavie doesn't add MSG to its juice products, and neither does Campbells, and neither, as far as I know, is it added to any other major brands of juice products.

BreezyinVA wrote

Bob Blaylock, it is funny how on a Monavie blog we discuss other products like Hawaiian punch, Campbells soups, Costco and Walmart products and others. It must be because Monavie has more people interested in talking about it than the other products. So you have to come to a Monavie blog to talk. Who wants to talk about Campbells soups or Hawaiian punch.

Campbells puts MSG in their products. It is a neurotoxin designed to make you THINK it tastes good but is actually overstimulating to the tired worn out modern nervous system. Read Dr. Russell Blaylock's work.

MSG is a secret ingredient in some commercial pet foods that make the animal choose their food over other more wholesome foods. So which one will you buy. Meanwhile, we are getting neurotoxins in a lot of places now. Monavie is very soothing to the nervous system, at least for me.

  I'm familiar with the works of Russell Blaylock.  He's a kook, a crackpot, and a junk scientist.  And no, I am not related to him as far as I know.

  And no, Campbell's does not, as far as I can determine, put MSG into any of its V8® products.  Most of these products contain nothing but reconstituted juice, with nothing else at all added.  None of them contain any artificial flavors, colors, or preservatives.  And none of them contain MSG.

  Based on what you have written about MSG, I think you will find the information at this link to be very useful.

For justthefactsman:

You attacked everyone's credentials. Please let us know your background. Any degrees? Any science classes past the seventh grade? Any lab experience? I know you're not living off of your MonaVie income. So, what do you do?

Go ahead and challenge me in science, my friend.

I hate to tell you this. But I know more about the product that you sell, than you do.

You and BJ (your twin?), and the other MonaVites expect people to believe your over-priced fruit juice is going to do something amazing for you. It's not.

Rather than keep up this tautology, I offer this challenge:

Call the UC Davis food technology extension service, or in the south, the university of Georgia's food technology department.

Tell them about MonaVie, and ask their opinion.

Factsman - get your parent's permission first

Thanks, Concerned Friend.

And this underlines the point that many people involved in MLM have no clue what it really is, what the legal boundaries are, and what differentiates a well-established MLM model following a fair market direct sales approach versus a recruitment-based model where a vast majority of members lose more money than they make.

And to build on Concerned Friend's point on Starbucks:

Well, I too think it's overpriced. I don't patronize Starbucks. But they also don't go around making claims that their coffee can cure or prevent diseases.

Nor does Starbucks distribute their product through a network of independent distributors. Starbucks shops are company-owned.

When you walk into a Starbucks, the Manager at the place doesn't offer you a chance to reach financial independence by joining his team and recruiting others to work for you.

I'm really amazed at how many lame arguments and asinine points many of you Monavie distributors continue to make on this blog.

I would recommend keeping your dayjobs if this is really the best thinking your minds can churn out.

Ivan, Did you understand anything from my post that you are responding to? Did I say that ALL MLM companies are based in UTAH?

NO, I didn't. But I did explain that MLM companies which primarily focus on recruiting other distributors as their business model are almost certainly based in UTAH.

And, you IDIOT, don't tell me about your friend in TEXAS!

The law applies to the COMPANY.

Notice that I said "COMPANIES BASED IN UTAH"! I'm not referring to independent distributors being based in Utah.

The company answers to the legal issues, NOT the distributor.

So you can have a bunch of distributors all over the place! I am referring to the MONAVIE COMPANY HEADQUARTERS ITSELF!

Is Monavie supposed to make you smarter also? It certainly doesn't show.

And yes, AVON and MARY KAY are set up VERY DIFFERENTLY than MONAVIE.

Did you read my post, or are you just blowing a gasket because you can't answer any of my basic questions on this blog legitimately?

IVAN, READ THIS VERY CAREFULLY. READ IT TWICE, OR AS MANY TIMES AS YOU NEED TO!

-Avon and Mary Kay Representatives focus on DIRECT DISTRIBUTION of products that are priced similarly to comparative products found on BRICK & MORTAR STORE SHELVES at FAIR MARKET PRICES. The Reps focus on DIRECT SALES FIRST. The building of a team for group volume bonuses is a SECOND priority. This is due to the inherent business model AND pricing structure of the two companies.

-In Avon and Mary Kay, the RESIDUAL income becomes significant when the Reps reach a District/Regional Manager level or above. Before that, most of the income comes from ACTUAL RETAIL SALES to customers who are NOT Reps.

-Avon is based in NY. Mary Kay is based in TX.

-Monavie Distributors DO NOT focus on retail sales to NON-DISTRIBUTORS. They may sell some, but Monavie's PRIMARY business comes from the personal volume and consumption of its OWN DISTRIBUTORS.

Do you understand the DIFFERENCE?

If every Distributor in Monavie focused primarily on trying to make a profit by retailing the juice to regular customers, at the retail price of $40-$45, the company would've folded a while ago. The money comes in from DISTRIBUTORS CONSUMING THEIR OWN product primarily. Therefore, each and every one of you NEEDS to recruit as much as possible.

Plus, this comp plan simply does not allow room for anything else.

2 Legs. One "Powerleg". One "Weak" leg. You get paid ONLY on the Weak leg, no matter how many are in your Powerleg. So you have no choice but to go on a recruiting tangent ALL THE TIME.

And don't forget about all the extra recruiting you need to do to replace those that leave after 3 months or so.

So the whole business model becomes dependent upon recruiting others into the business. That is what most states define as a "PRODUCT BASED PYRAMID SCHEME".

Except UTAH. Utah's wording of this law includes provisions which define compensation as ANY compensation, not just for retail sales. Also, the term "Retail Customers" is replaced with the concept of general consumption.

Ivan, I would really recommend using your time to actually learn and investigate real facts and come up with original thoughts and logically sound arguments.

If you simply plan on rephrasing the same verbal diarrhea that you hear from your upline and trying to refute my points by displaying your absolute ignorance of Netwrok Marketing, then maybe you're not cut out for this business.

Are you really that obtuse and brainwashed to not see the gross injustice in Monavie's comp plan? You can't seem to figure out that EVERYTHING about this comp plan forces the recruitment of others up to the top of the priority list?

So now, can someone PLEASE answer these VERY SIMPLE questions:

What is SO SPECIAL about Monavie that CANNOT be found in other Acai drinks priced under $10?

If it's just a blend of fruit puree's and concentrates in a small serving, what inside this blend makes it so miraculous as opposed to other drinks containing Acai?

Ivan.

How do you KNOW all this about “negative” people? You still did not define what you think a “negative” person is. I know many people that others would view as negative that are very successful, healthy and appear very happy. Stress is self-induced nothing brings on stress but the individual viewing a stressor as a stressor. Some stress is good, remember fight or flight? Why do you think/believe that misery loves company? Miserable people hang out together because the thing that made them miserable is what made them hang out together. They do not seek each other out.
Where has anything that you say about positive attitudes been proven? I have great relationships; I am very successful (I owned my own house – no mortgage- at 23). I own 2 now. So I am not sure how you come to your conclusions.
I guess what I write about MV is not very positive, because all the research that I have done has yet to show me one legitimate study on MV. I cannot find anything positive about the product, anywhere. The only positive thing about the product is that it has made a lot of money for a very few. I do not like the FACTS that many distributors claim that MV can help with health issues and that they brainwash people into thinking that all problems can be solved by a $40 dollar bottle of unsupported claims. A close friend of mine is going broke by thinking that this crap works and that this crap is a good business plan.
You have very poor logic and you assume too much. Read and research more.

Ivan,

I will expect snake to rebut this but I could not sit back and read this without commenting.

Mary Kay..... I think is direct sales -- no need to be a "member" or buy the product to sell it -- also no down line.

Avon ..... I think is direct sales -- no need to be a "member" or buy the product to sell it -- also no down line.

Monavie.....definitely a pyramid scam.

I believe snake was stating that the companies are headquartered in UTAH because of the reading of Utah's laws. You can sell MV anywhere it is legal to sell it. What many people do not realize is that as a distributor you need to check with your local state and municipalities laws pertaining to selling/recruiting into a pyramid scam.

I doubt that Larsen is a Mormon -- but I am not sure of his religious affiliations.

Why does every distributor bring up Starbucks -- it is overpriced coffee true, no one has disputed that. We all dispute the value of MV - it is not worth $40 a bottle for the juice. If someone wants to pay $40 dollars a bottle for juice that is fine -- distributors LIE about the healing properties of the juice, so consumers think that they are buying much more than juice when they are not -- that is the stance on this and other blogs.

Also, how do you know what Starbucks pays for coffee? Where do they sell it for $30 dollars a pound? If you would do the research, Starbucks pays about 4 times the going rate for their coffee beans. Watch what you type as facts -- please, I like you stop being an idiot. Read more before you post, you make yourself look stupid.

Breezy,

She is not my mother-in-law, she is my wife's grandmother, she does not need to be in anyone's home she is in her own. I am not sure if she has always gotten flu shots.

I am definitely not vain. I feel that I have a fine grasp of the English language. Why should I care about people that need to be shot? I may be a jerk, but like I stated before, I am not that fragile that I care about other people's view of me.

To Bob Blaylock:

I just have to that your posts have been truly outstanding. It's a pleasure to read them. So truthful it borders on being poetic.

I have a SINCERE apology to make to all here that I have mislead down the primrose path of this product. The data I have accumulated is diametericly opposed to a majority of the staments and facts that I have immorally posted here . I was being kicked back (compensated) with mainly a green leafed herb that can be smoked and works wonders for me . The Monavie is an out and out ripoff and I am sorry to all my net friends for what I have done but times have been tough please accept my apologies .
BreezyinVa

I realized that after I hit "post" on my last comment to Senor Blowlock, he wouldn't have a freakin' clue as to what the crap is, I'm talking about in his ultimate soup....
so let me spell it out.
On every can of C-soup label I looked at, one of the ingredients was yeast extract,,,,and the other was hydrolyzed protein. That is protein that has been hydrolyzed or broken down into its component amino acids. While there are many means of achieving this, two of the most common are prolonged boiling in a strong acid or strong base or using an enzyme such as the pancreatic protease enzyme to stimulate the naturally-occurring hydrolytic process.
According to the FDA, hydrolyzed protein is used to enhance flavor and contains monosodium glutamate. When added this way, the labels are not required to list MSG as an ingredient.
Did you hear that Mr. Blowlock. Your delicious soups have MSG, whether or not the labels say it does or not.
MANY products do this and some products don't.
Let me make something perfectly clear.
MonaVie doesn't.
Now go take a joy ride on your forklift.

cya,
B J

I just HAD to pop in for the last time to address Blowlock the Campbell's forklift driver.

I went to the grocery store this morning and just for the helluvit I checked the labels on about 10 different cans of YOUR company's soup.

Do you have ANY idea of the chemicals and other crap in your precious soup??.....Don't get me wrong. I believe Campbells is a good company, but you, Blowlock, have a lot of nerve preaching how MonaVie is no good when your company distributes pure CRAPOLA.
Go read your own labels you moron...
Now, I bid you all a pleasant bye bye.

B J

Bob Blaylock, it is funny how on a Monavie blog we discuss other products like Hawaiian punch, Campbells soups, Costco and Walmart products and others. It must be because Monavie has more people interested in talking about it than the other products. So you have to come to a Monavie blog to talk. Who wants to talk about Campbells soups or Hawaiian punch.

Campbells puts MSG in their products. It is a neurotoxin designed to make you THINK it tastes good but is actually overstimulating to the tired worn out modern nervous system. Read Dr. Russell Blaylock's work.

MSG is a secret ingredient in some commercial pet foods that make the animal choose their food over other more wholesome foods. So which one will you buy. Meanwhile, we are getting neurotoxins in a lot of places now. Monavie is very soothing to the nervous system, at least for me.

Well Mo, Larry, and Curly, and the other loser stooges on this board,

Being that your heads are like concrete blocks and you choose not to do your own research, coupled with the fact that I'm really getting too busy to deal with airheads like yourselves, I will leave you all to wallow in your own ignorance.
I'm off to continue helping people live healthier lives.

Ta Ta

B J

Ivan Benloken wrote

You [Bob Blaylock] stated:

To be clear; yes, I am employed by the Campbell's Soup company.

Then you represent them, the people who work for Monavie represent Monavie.

You stated:

My opinions are my own, and I do not claim that they represent the positions of the company that employs me.

Then the people who own a Monavie business can say the same thing, then their opinions are their own and do not represent the positions of the company.

  If I could convince everyone who had any dealings with Monavie that I am such a jerk, and therefore my company must also be such a jerk, that they were never again in their lifetimes going to buy any of my company's products, my company would not even notice.  Monavie's consumer base is that insignificant compared to my company's consumer base.

  The Monavie distributor is in a very different position than I am in.  He's trying to sell fruit juice for forty dollars a bottle.  He's trying to do this in a market where many other companies — older, bigger, more reputable — have comparable fruit juice products that are easier to buy, which cost a lot less, and which are every bit as good as Monavie.

  If I were to claim that V8® will cure cancer, or diabetes, or hemorrhoids, or bad breath, or AIDS, or whatever, I'd be lying.  But I have no reason to tell such a lie.  V8® sells very well (much better than Monavie ever will) without anyone having to make such claims about it.  But then we're not trying to sell it for forty dollars a bottle.  Nobody would pay forty dollars a bottle for V8®.  It's a great product, but it is not worth that much, nor do I think that Campbell's would ever make any attempt to claim that it is worth that much.

  The only way you can sell fruit juice for forty dollars a bottle is to lie about it, to convince suckers that it is something much better than what it really is.  The Monavie company, of course, cannot make any such claims about its product.  If it did, then the FDA and the FTC would shut them down in a heartbeat; just as they did with Royal Tongan Limu — the scam that Monavie's founder was previously involved in.  Of course, the MLM structure, as applied by Monavie, allows the parent company to distance itself from the claims and conduct of its distributors.

you stated:

You don't have to pay forty dollars a bottle, $1.57 per ounce, for a decent juice-based product.

NO,you don't have to pay $40 a bottle Bob. You can buy it on e-bay for $20 a bottle.

You stated that you make a product just as good as Monavie. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Monavie makes a better product than Campbell's. We could argue this point until hell freeze over. but we would not accomplish a thing.

As a subsidiary of Campbell's that you work for, you are aware that there are a lot of products out there that are better than Campbell's and cost far,far less.

  Whether a particular product from one company is better than a comparable product from a different company is usually a matter of subjective judgement, and difficult to objectively prove.  But we can at least establish products that are comparable, and price is a matter that can be objectively defined and compared.

  I propose that you support your claim in the following manner:  You propose a list of products which are not made by Campbell's, but which are similar to specific Campbell's products, and which can at least not immediately be established as being of inferior quality to the corresponding Campbell's products.  (We can deal with the claim that each of these products is better than the corresponding Campbell's product at a later step.)

  I propose that we define “cost[s] far, far less” to mean by a factor of at least ten.  Since you're defending a product that costs twenty four times as much as a comparable Campbell's product, I think I am being generous by only insisting on a factor of ten.  In this context, I don't think it'd be unreasonable of me to demand a factor of at least twenty.  But I'll settle for ten.

  So, what products can you name that are comparable to any specific Campbell's products, but which cost a tenth of the price of the corresponding Campbell's products, or less?

What the ****, the name of this blog is purple horror. Why did you expect any more than that?

It was a chiropractor who turned me on to Monavie and I will be eternally grateful. One thing for sure, you won't stop me from loving Monavie. It helped me with a chronic issue. And I've never owned a microwave.

Concerned Friend, she is my father's cousin and is now living with her granddaughter. Assisted living for her meant that she had a community and all meals prepared and visits from me that she loved. She had already lost two children. If I were wealthy I could take in all my extended family.

But your motherinlaw is not in your home. Wait until you take her in before ragging on others. When you have her living in your home then you can tell others what they should do. And she is 96 and has been getting flu shots every year? That would be about 45flushots since they were "invented." Thatisamazing.

You are not vain concerned friend? I think you have a lot to learn about the english language and about people. Why aren't you concerned about the people you are shooting. Me fears you are a Jerk, sir.

I'll point out again that the people laboring to get others to not like Monavie NEVER identify themselves. Face it, many people love Monavie. It has NOTHING to do with any of you. Make sure your own family never enjoys. Leave mine alone.

Bobby J

Blalock [sic] drives a forklift? Well that's not a bad job at all. Although, forklift drivers are a dime a dozen and it really doesn't take much of a brain to drive one. Hell, I drove one when I was 12.
The real point is, whether you're a forklift driver or an accountant. A store manager or an auto parts salesman. You are ALL subject to getting LAID OFF !!....Understand that?
Monavie distributors don't get laid off. The company is DEBT FREE. MonaVie pays their distributors according to what each distributor produces. If we don't produce, we don't get paid. If we produce a little bit, we earn a little bit, and if we work HARD, MonaVie pays VERY WELL. More than you could ever imagine.
Does Campbells pay you more if you do a better job driving your little forklift Blowlock?
Nope,,,In fact, you can be the best forklift driver in the entire world,,,,and guess what,,,You still stand the chance of getting
LAID OFF.....Now, how does THAT sound? Still proud? Is your family living the high life now?

  And better than that, it's honest money.  I don't have to lie to anyone to earn my wages.  I don't have to try to deceive people into paying ten times as much for a product as it is worth by making unsupportable claims about what the product can do for them.  I don't have to lure others into some shady pyramid below me with false claims of fantastic wealth to be thus made.

  I don't even have to depend on lies told by others, while attempting to soothe my conscience by telling myself that since I didn't personally tell these lies, I'm not culpable for trying to profit from them.

  And no, I am not in any foreseeable danger of being laid off.  Not unless my company experiences some very drastic, unforeseen downturn; but that isn't going to happen.  I'm employed by a company that has been in business for almost a hundred and forty years.  It was in business before any of us were born.  It was in business before any or our parents were born, or our grandparents.  And it will still be in business long after we have passed on, and long after our children have passed on, and long after our grandchildren have passed on.  This is a company that survived the Great Depression of the 1930s, and numerous other times of economic hardship, and cam through it all unfazed.  This is the one company — the only one — out of the five hundred that make up the Standard & Poor's 500 index, whose stock went up on 29 September 2008, the day that the stock market took its biggest dive in history.  My job isn't going away any time soon.

  Monavie has been in business for hardly the blink of an eye, and it will be gone in hardly the blink of an eye.  Those of you who are caught up in this brief fad cannot imagine the scale on which a real company — such as my employer — operates, nor have you the humility to try.

SOB, I'm responding to your following statement:
PLEASE DO NOT COMPARE AVON AND MARY KAY TO MONAVIE. OK,don't compare your snakeoil to MONAVIE.

Mary Kay.....MLM

Avon ..... MLM

Monavie.....MLM No matter how you do it,it's still MLM.

You made this statement :Utah is the ONLY state that they can legally operate in. Funny my friend doesn't live in Utah and he is in business. Is Texas legal? there are a lot there. Or how about Michigan? How do you know that it is the ONLY state?

SOB... Do you think the people that run the business just might be MORMON?

SOB..... Whats the wording that you base your statement on Utah's law ?

SOB..... Why do you and all the others say that it is an overpriced product . Here;s an example and you can check it out. Starbucks pays $1.28 for a lb. of coffee, but sell it for $31.99 and people buy it. So if they can do it why can't Monavie?

Anyway SOB keep those opinions comming without you there would be nothing to read.

BJob,

I actually NEVER have a chance to get LAID-OFF. I am military and I run a business on the side. I WILL retire making 75% of my salary (plus annual increases) at 47. Plus free healthcare for life. What type of retirement plan does MV have? What happens when the company gets sued again and it closes shop – do they have a 401K type plan that you can transfer to another MLM pyramid scam? I think that my family and I live pretty well. I have a stay at home wife. I also stated before that I have the best job in the world – I can shoot people at work, how cool is that?

MV distributors do not get laid –off that is probably the only accurate thing that you have ever posted. Maybe your logic has finally come around. The MAJORITY (97%) of MV distributors spend more than they bring in on their company’s not so special product. They do not get laid-off because they either spend more to “make” more or they run out of money and stop buying the crap. How well does MV pay – care to share a line from your 1099? Or maybe blank out your SSN and address and scan a copy? I doubt you would back you claims of riches with actual evidence. Granted there are some that do very very well in the MV pyramid. Most of them got into the scam early and have a healthy down line. I am not disputing that there is money in fraud, there obviously is or Larsen would be broke. How do you know that MV is debt free – I do not think that that is public knowledge (or are you Larsen’s accountant)?

My point Breezy was that the people in nursing homes are there because their families suck. Not because they were drugged to go there. They definitely get drugged there. Apparently you fall into the category of sending your relatives to a nursing home vice taking care of them at home -- it was probably just easier to send her away rather than care about her. My wife's Grandmother chose an apartment in an adult community. She is not in assisted living -- there is an on call doctor though, but she does not have anyone taking care of her. They do offer many "events" for older people -- such as the flu shot clinic. She does get an annual flu shot -- I believe that there has been research conducted that states that when someone gets older their immune system cannot combat illness (especially of a viral nature) so they are given flu shots to help keep them from getting ill. I used to volunteer at a nursing home.

Also, you totally missed the point about the English. I did not say that everyone needs to speak English (and it is not MY language), but when someone posts to an English blog they should post in English that is used properly.

I do have humility -- I recognize when I am not good at something. I do not understand what you mean by this. I also do not understand what prompted this. I honestly do not care if I am viewed as an ugly American, I do not care about other people's opinion of me - I am not vain.

I never said anything about looking down on someone for liking MV. I did say that many distributors misrepresent the truth when they try to scam people into buying it or getting into the "business". I have yet to find someone that has genuinely benefitted from drinking MV. There is NO research supporting any of the claims that many (if not most) distributors profess as the truth. If you can find ONE study that proves anything that MV distributors claim please send me the link. I said MV not the ACAI berry -- there is a HUGE difference.

a concerned friend

I too have a small amount of negativity. But I am lot more positive. Here is what I know. A negative persons attitude will lead to unhappiness,poor relationships,difficulty at work and ultimately,poor health. A sustained negative attitude will kill you. Or in your case a bullet. I just can't think about that. Please forgive me. A negative attitude will bring on stress and stress will lead to anxiety,depression and ulcers. Sales people with negative attitudes struggle and have difficulty closing sales. One of the tragic parts of negative attitudes is that misery loves company. Negative people will search out others and attempt to bring them down to their level. Their negative influence feels powerful and they use it as a self-esteem boost. People do this in attempt to feel better about themselves,but the end result is short lived and unproductive. I hope that answers your first question?

The negative attitudes of some on this post as I said "misery loves company" and the seek out the others to bring them down to their level. Can you imagine the men in your company [soldiers] had a negative attitude in fighting? I probably would be not writing this.

People like to be around positive people. In sales,customers like to buy from positive people who have confidence in what they are selling and help their customers enjoy the buying process. People do not want to be sold,but they love to buy and own.That why I have a positive attitude. Having a positive attitude will improve your relationships,make you happier and lead to success. Having a positive attitude are enormous.

Am sure you have a very positive attitude but you write negative things about MV. What don't you like about MV?

Stay out of harms way. May God Bless you each and everyday that you are there.